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Unreadable Bulgarian Cyrillic
aw1973 3/8/2007 11:20:03 AM
I have old texts written in Word 2000 (or before) in 3 different types of
Bulgarian Cyrillic:
NewSaturionCyr
TmsCyr
Baltic

How can I convert them so that I can read them in Office Word 2003?
(I am using XP)
Re: Unreadable Bulgarian Cyrillic
"Michael S. Kaplan [MSFT]" <michka[ at ]online.microsoft.com> 3/25/2007 1:28:08 PM
If they can be read in Word and you still have the fonts, what makes you
think they cannot be read now?


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"aw1973" <aw1973[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>I have old texts written in Word 2000 (or before) in 3 different types of
> Bulgarian Cyrillic:
> NewSaturionCyr
> TmsCyr
> Baltic
>
> How can I convert them so that I can read them in Office Word 2003?
> (I am using XP)


Re: Unreadable Bulgarian Cyrillic
aw1973 3/28/2007 1:10:56 AM
I cannot read them in Word 2003 on XP. They were written a while a go on
another PC with, I imagine, an old version of word. All I can read now is:
îò ìíîãî âðåìå èñêàì äà òè êàæà
îò ìíîãî âðåìå êðàñîòàòà
äúðæè íè íåñïîêîéíè

I have tried encoding options, but still no joy.

"Michael S. Kaplan [MSFT]" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> If they can be read in Word and you still have the fonts, what makes you
> think they cannot be read now?
>
>
> --
> MichKa [Microsoft]
> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead
> Globalization Infrastructure, Fonts, and Tools
> Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with
> no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
>
> "aw1973" <aw1973[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:135529C0-FE06-49AC-94B6-76A72F52DA27[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >I have old texts written in Word 2000 (or before) in 3 different types of
> > Bulgarian Cyrillic:
> > NewSaturionCyr
> > TmsCyr
> > Baltic
> >
> > How can I convert them so that I can read them in Office Word 2003?
> > (I am using XP)
>
>
>
Re: Unreadable Bulgarian Cyrillic
"Klaus Linke" <info[ at ]fotosatz-kaufmann.de> 3/28/2007 6:54:30 PM
Sounds as if you don't have the fonts installed.
Word will still happily show them in the fonts control/dialog... You'd have
to look in "Tools > Options > Compatibility > Font substitutions" to see
that they are missing.
If you want to convert the text to Unicode (so you can use Arial, Times New
Roman, ..., and to input text using a Bulgarian Windows keyboard layout, you
can "repair" the text using the eefonts.dot add-in.
Not sure whether I have that from the Office CD, or from a MS download page.

Regards,
Klaus



"aw1973" wrote:
[Quoted Text]
>I cannot read them in Word 2003 on XP. They were written a while a go on
> another PC with, I imagine, an old version of word. All I can read now is:
> îò ìíîãî âðåìå èñêàì äà òè êàæà
> îò ìíîãî âðåìå êðàñîòàòà
> äúðæè íè íåñïîêîéíè
>
> I have tried encoding options, but still no joy.
>
> "Michael S. Kaplan [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> If they can be read in Word and you still have the fonts, what makes you
>> think they cannot be read now?
>>
>>
>> --
>> MichKa [Microsoft]
>> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead
>> Globalization Infrastructure, Fonts, and Tools
>> Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with
>> no warranties, and confers no rights.
>>
>>
>>
>> "aw1973" <aw1973[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:135529C0-FE06-49AC-94B6-76A72F52DA27[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> >I have old texts written in Word 2000 (or before) in 3 different types
>> >of
>> > Bulgarian Cyrillic:
>> > NewSaturionCyr
>> > TmsCyr
>> > Baltic
>> >
>> > How can I convert them so that I can read them in Office Word 2003?
>> > (I am using XP)
>>
>>
>>


Re: Unreadable Bulgarian Cyrillic
"Klaus Linke" <info[ at ]fotosatz-kaufmann.de> 3/28/2007 8:38:27 PM
[Quoted Text]
>> îò ìíîãî âðåìå èñêàì äà òè êàæà
>> îò ìíîãî âðåìå êðàñîòàòà
>> äúðæè íè íåñïîêîéíè

So you can check whether it would work:
I selected the above text, used eefonts.dot (which adds a menu entry "Tools
> Fix broken text"), chose "Bulgarian", and got
> ?? ????? ????? ????? ?? ?? ????
> ?? ????? ????? ?????????
> ????? ?? ??????????
(in font Arial)

Klaus


Re: Unreadable Bulgarian Cyrillic
"Klaus Linke" <info[ at ]fotosatz-kaufmann.de> 3/28/2007 8:53:20 PM
Actually, it looked better than a bunch of question marks <g>
[Quoted Text]
> от много време искам да ти кажа
> от много време красотата
> държи ни неспокойни



Hope the web interface can display that...



Klaus

Re: Unreadable Bulgarian Cyrillic
Mitchell 3/30/2007 11:50:03 AM
Dear Klaus
Could you email the eefonts.dot to me and if you have it the TMSCYR.TTF
I can't find it anywhere on the internet
Thanks
Rgds
mitchellkivits[ at ]hotmail.com

"Klaus Linke" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Actually, it looked better than a bunch of question marks <g>
> > от много време искам да ти кажа
> > от много време красотата
> > държи ни неспокойни
>
>
>
> Hope the web interface can display that...
>
>
>
> Klaus
>
>
RE: Unreadable Bulgarian Cyrillic
Mitchell 3/30/2007 11:58:01 AM
Dear AW
Do you have the font files which you mention? especially TMSCYR
If yes could you email them to me, I have the same
problem as you do.

Thanks
Rgds
mitchellkivits[ at ]hotmail.com


"aw1973" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> I have old texts written in Word 2000 (or before) in 3 different types of
> Bulgarian Cyrillic:
> NewSaturionCyr
> TmsCyr
> Baltic
>
> How can I convert them so that I can read them in Office Word 2003?
> (I am using XP)
Re: Unreadable Bulgarian Cyrillic
"Paul Gorodyansky" <paulgor[ at ]compuserve.com> 5/2/2007 11:31:03 PM
Hi,

I ran into this thread and see that the question was not answered:

"Mitchell" <Mitchell[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EF65C06F-200C-42FE-A843-57FB0849B4BA[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Dear Klaus
> Could you email the eefonts.dot to me and if you have it the TMSCYR.TTF
> I can't find it anywhere on the internet

You don't need 'old' fonts.

Macro eefonts.dot / option "Fix Broken Text" in Word' menu -
the thing to solve the problem described in this thread -
can be obtained this way:

1) Office 97 - http://office.microsoft.com/rus/downloads/9798/cyrfonts.aspx

2) Office 2000/XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q260162

3) Office 2003 already has "Fix Broken Text" option and it will be installed
on 1st use


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Regards,
Paul Gorodyansky
"Cyrillic (Russian): instructions for Windows and Internet":
http://RusWin.net
Russian On-screen Keyboard: http://Kbd.RusWin.net


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