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Needed WordPerfect Feature needed for Word - Help
"Jeff Mathewson" <jeffwm[ at ]uswest.net> 6/23/2007 2:59:35 AM
Hello all,

One of our biggest problems we are facing moving away from WordPerfect 7 to
Word 2007 is a feature that WordPerfect has dealing with form fields that as
of yet, can't see that Word 2007 has and buying an add-in currently isn't an
option.

This feature being with WordPerfect, you can call up a dialog box to fill in
all fields. Something really close to Excel's Form data entry feature. The
closes I have found in Word is the FILL-IN and ASK form fields. This could
work, but I would have guessed Microsoft would have come up with something
more powerful then this basic prompting? The only other way would be to
create a custom macro/userform---but again, we are dealing with thousands of
documents.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Jeff.
OJD


Re: Needed WordPerfect Feature needed for Word - Help
"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> 6/23/2007 4:57:31 AM
See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Repeating_Data.htm

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Jeff Mathewson wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Hello all,
>
> One of our biggest problems we are facing moving away from
> WordPerfect 7 to Word 2007 is a feature that WordPerfect has dealing
> with form fields that as of yet, can't see that Word 2007 has and
> buying an add-in currently isn't an option.
>
> This feature being with WordPerfect, you can call up a dialog box to
> fill in all fields. Something really close to Excel's Form data
> entry feature. The closes I have found in Word is the FILL-IN and
> ASK form fields. This could work, but I would have guessed Microsoft
> would have come up with something more powerful then this basic
> prompting? The only other way would be to create a custom
> macro/userform---but again, we are dealing with thousands of
> documents.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks, Jeff.
> OJD


Re: Needed WordPerfect Feature needed for Word - Help
"Jeff Mathewson" <jeffwm[ at ]uswest.net> 6/23/2007 5:04:26 PM
Graham,

Thank you very much for getting back so soon. Looking at the link you
supplied may help, and I'll have to look into '5. DocProperty' as an
option. But the problem I'm going to be facing is we are setting this
documents up for users who have really no experience behind a computer hence
why I need a basic userform for the data entry.

The only other option I'm seeing would be to create custom userforms. This
again will be a big issue since we will soon be working with thousands of
documents.

For this I'm looking into another option which I'll post on Word.VBA but
throw it out here for a fast yes/no answer:

The other option I'm looking at is to see if I can create a custom Word 2007
macro which will be able to create the custom userforms/macros itself. This
way, all the macro would have to do is scan the document and from the field
data, build the needed userform and code as needed automatically. For this
to happen I'll need access to the VBA Editor Object. Does Word 2007 give
such access?

Any other ideas, PLEASE send my way.

Again I ask to vent: Why doesn't Word have this cool feature?? WordPerfect
has it along with Excel, so why they leave Word out of the loop?

Last: I do want to share my findings. I believe in the old Internet, so
anyone interested in hosting this, please let me know.

Thanks,

Jeff Mathewson
OJD


"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:O2StdTVtHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Repeating_Data.htm
>
> --
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>
> My web site www.gmayor.com
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > One of our biggest problems we are facing moving away from
> > WordPerfect 7 to Word 2007 is a feature that WordPerfect has dealing
> > with form fields that as of yet, can't see that Word 2007 has and
> > buying an add-in currently isn't an option.
> >
> > This feature being with WordPerfect, you can call up a dialog box to
> > fill in all fields. Something really close to Excel's Form data
> > entry feature. The closes I have found in Word is the FILL-IN and
> > ASK form fields. This could work, but I would have guessed Microsoft
> > would have come up with something more powerful then this basic
> > prompting? The only other way would be to create a custom
> > macro/userform---but again, we are dealing with thousands of
> > documents.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks, Jeff.
> > OJD
>
>


Re: Needed WordPerfect Feature needed for Word - Help
"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> 6/24/2007 4:13:44 AM
It is impossible to guess what you need to do with these thousands of
documents, but Word is a template and style based system. The idea is that
you have templates containing macros etc pertinent to the documents you
create from them, and then you create new documents from those templates.


--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>

Jeff Mathewson wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Graham,
>
> Thank you very much for getting back so soon. Looking at the link you
> supplied may help, and I'll have to look into '5. DocProperty' as an
> option. But the problem I'm going to be facing is we are setting this
> documents up for users who have really no experience behind a
> computer hence why I need a basic userform for the data entry.
>
> The only other option I'm seeing would be to create custom userforms.
> This again will be a big issue since we will soon be working with
> thousands of documents.
>
> For this I'm looking into another option which I'll post on Word.VBA
> but throw it out here for a fast yes/no answer:
>
> The other option I'm looking at is to see if I can create a custom
> Word 2007 macro which will be able to create the custom
> userforms/macros itself. This way, all the macro would have to do is
> scan the document and from the field data, build the needed userform
> and code as needed automatically. For this to happen I'll need
> access to the VBA Editor Object. Does Word 2007 give such access?
>
> Any other ideas, PLEASE send my way.
>
> Again I ask to vent: Why doesn't Word have this cool feature??
> WordPerfect has it along with Excel, so why they leave Word out of
> the loop?
>
> Last: I do want to share my findings. I believe in the old Internet,
> so anyone interested in hosting this, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff Mathewson
> OJD
>
>
> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:O2StdTVtHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Repeating_Data.htm
>>
>> --
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>
>> My web site www.gmayor.com
>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>
>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> One of our biggest problems we are facing moving away from
>>> WordPerfect 7 to Word 2007 is a feature that WordPerfect has dealing
>>> with form fields that as of yet, can't see that Word 2007 has and
>>> buying an add-in currently isn't an option.
>>>
>>> This feature being with WordPerfect, you can call up a dialog box to
>>> fill in all fields. Something really close to Excel's Form data
>>> entry feature. The closes I have found in Word is the FILL-IN and
>>> ASK form fields. This could work, but I would have guessed
>>> Microsoft would have come up with something more powerful then this
>>> basic prompting? The only other way would be to create a custom
>>> macro/userform---but again, we are dealing with thousands of
>>> documents.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Jeff.
>>> OJD


Re: Needed WordPerfect Feature needed for Word - Help
"Jeff Mathewson" <jeffwm[ at ]uswest.net> 6/24/2007 5:13:49 AM
The problem being with these thousand of documents, they are all in
WordPerfect format and we are going to be converting them to Word 2007.
Most of the WordPerfect template documents are using the default WordPerfect
data entry form dialog box..so if we convert these documents to Word 2007 I
know a lot of departments are going to come back and ask (yell)where their
user friendly data entry dialog went. So what I need to do is find a way to
create these dialogs with ease without having to manually build userforms
for each and every document converted from WordPerfect. Why these are so
important is that the documents are being used by non computer savvy users.
These Smart Documents will be very important for the project to be completed
without any problems.

In WordPerfect, only one macro command is needed to load the dialog box.
But in Word 2007, with this feature not found, I'll be needing to create the
userforms by hand or find a way to automate the creation of the userforms.

So yes, I'm looking to find a way to create a Word 2007 template that will
allow me to create the userforms with on click of the mouse.

Jeff Mathewson
OJD

"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23simLYhtHHA.3468[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> It is impossible to guess what you need to do with these thousands of
> documents, but Word is a template and style based system. The idea is that
> you have templates containing macros etc pertinent to the documents you
> create from them, and then you create new documents from those templates.
>
>
> --
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>
> My web site www.gmayor.com
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> > Graham,
> >
> > Thank you very much for getting back so soon. Looking at the link you
> > supplied may help, and I'll have to look into '5. DocProperty' as an
> > option. But the problem I'm going to be facing is we are setting this
> > documents up for users who have really no experience behind a
> > computer hence why I need a basic userform for the data entry.
> >
> > The only other option I'm seeing would be to create custom userforms.
> > This again will be a big issue since we will soon be working with
> > thousands of documents.
> >
> > For this I'm looking into another option which I'll post on Word.VBA
> > but throw it out here for a fast yes/no answer:
> >
> > The other option I'm looking at is to see if I can create a custom
> > Word 2007 macro which will be able to create the custom
> > userforms/macros itself. This way, all the macro would have to do is
> > scan the document and from the field data, build the needed userform
> > and code as needed automatically. For this to happen I'll need
> > access to the VBA Editor Object. Does Word 2007 give such access?
> >
> > Any other ideas, PLEASE send my way.
> >
> > Again I ask to vent: Why doesn't Word have this cool feature??
> > WordPerfect has it along with Excel, so why they leave Word out of
> > the loop?
> >
> > Last: I do want to share my findings. I believe in the old Internet,
> > so anyone interested in hosting this, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jeff Mathewson
> > OJD
> >
> >
> > "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:O2StdTVtHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Repeating_Data.htm
> >>
> >> --
> >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >>
> >> My web site www.gmayor.com
> >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>
> >> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> One of our biggest problems we are facing moving away from
> >>> WordPerfect 7 to Word 2007 is a feature that WordPerfect has dealing
> >>> with form fields that as of yet, can't see that Word 2007 has and
> >>> buying an add-in currently isn't an option.
> >>>
> >>> This feature being with WordPerfect, you can call up a dialog box to
> >>> fill in all fields. Something really close to Excel's Form data
> >>> entry feature. The closes I have found in Word is the FILL-IN and
> >>> ASK form fields. This could work, but I would have guessed
> >>> Microsoft would have come up with something more powerful then this
> >>> basic prompting? The only other way would be to create a custom
> >>> macro/userform---but again, we are dealing with thousands of
> >>> documents.
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Jeff.
> >>> OJD
>
>


Re: Needed WordPerfect Feature needed for Word - Help
"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> 6/24/2007 7:06:46 AM
If Word Perfect does what you want in the way that you want it, and your
staff are trained and familiar with its use, why are you changing to Word
2007 and making yourself a lot of work?

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>

Jeff Mathewson wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> The problem being with these thousand of documents, they are all in
> WordPerfect format and we are going to be converting them to Word
> 2007. Most of the WordPerfect template documents are using the
> default WordPerfect data entry form dialog box..so if we convert
> these documents to Word 2007 I know a lot of departments are going to
> come back and ask (yell)where their user friendly data entry dialog
> went. So what I need to do is find a way to create these dialogs
> with ease without having to manually build userforms for each and
> every document converted from WordPerfect. Why these are so
> important is that the documents are being used by non computer savvy
> users. These Smart Documents will be very important for the project
> to be completed without any problems.
>
> In WordPerfect, only one macro command is needed to load the dialog
> box. But in Word 2007, with this feature not found, I'll be needing
> to create the userforms by hand or find a way to automate the
> creation of the userforms.
>
> So yes, I'm looking to find a way to create a Word 2007 template that
> will allow me to create the userforms with on click of the mouse.
>
> Jeff Mathewson
> OJD
>
> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23simLYhtHHA.3468[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> It is impossible to guess what you need to do with these thousands of
>> documents, but Word is a template and style based system. The idea
>> is that you have templates containing macros etc pertinent to the
>> documents you create from them, and then you create new documents
>> from those templates.
>>
>>
>> --
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>
>> My web site www.gmayor.com
>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>
>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
>>> Graham,
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for getting back so soon. Looking at the link
>>> you supplied may help, and I'll have to look into '5. DocProperty'
>>> as an option. But the problem I'm going to be facing is we are
>>> setting this documents up for users who have really no experience
>>> behind a computer hence why I need a basic userform for the data
>>> entry.
>>>
>>> The only other option I'm seeing would be to create custom
>>> userforms. This again will be a big issue since we will soon be
>>> working with thousands of documents.
>>>
>>> For this I'm looking into another option which I'll post on Word.VBA
>>> but throw it out here for a fast yes/no answer:
>>>
>>> The other option I'm looking at is to see if I can create a custom
>>> Word 2007 macro which will be able to create the custom
>>> userforms/macros itself. This way, all the macro would have to do
>>> is scan the document and from the field data, build the needed
>>> userform and code as needed automatically. For this to happen I'll
>>> need access to the VBA Editor Object. Does Word 2007 give such
>>> access?
>>>
>>> Any other ideas, PLEASE send my way.
>>>
>>> Again I ask to vent: Why doesn't Word have this cool feature??
>>> WordPerfect has it along with Excel, so why they leave Word out of
>>> the loop?
>>>
>>> Last: I do want to share my findings. I believe in the old
>>> Internet, so anyone interested in hosting this, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff Mathewson
>>> OJD
>>>
>>>
>>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:O2StdTVtHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Repeating_Data.htm
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>
>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com
>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> One of our biggest problems we are facing moving away from
>>>>> WordPerfect 7 to Word 2007 is a feature that WordPerfect has
>>>>> dealing with form fields that as of yet, can't see that Word 2007
>>>>> has and buying an add-in currently isn't an option.
>>>>>
>>>>> This feature being with WordPerfect, you can call up a dialog box
>>>>> to fill in all fields. Something really close to Excel's Form
>>>>> data entry feature. The closes I have found in Word is the
>>>>> FILL-IN and ASK form fields. This could work, but I would have
>>>>> guessed Microsoft would have come up with something more powerful
>>>>> then this basic prompting? The only other way would be to create
>>>>> a custom macro/userform---but again, we are dealing with
>>>>> thousands of documents.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Jeff.
>>>>> OJD


Re: Needed WordPerfect Feature needed for Word - Help
"Jeff Mathewson" <jeffwm[ at ]uswest.net> 6/24/2007 7:29:34 AM
Simple: I work for the State Government. And with that, we have already
deployed Word 2007 and training everyone now.

Jeff
OJD

"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:eW$Q44itHHA.1204[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> If Word Perfect does what you want in the way that you want it, and your
> staff are trained and familiar with its use, why are you changing to Word
> 2007 and making yourself a lot of work?
>
> --
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>
> My web site www.gmayor.com
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> > The problem being with these thousand of documents, they are all in
> > WordPerfect format and we are going to be converting them to Word
> > 2007. Most of the WordPerfect template documents are using the
> > default WordPerfect data entry form dialog box..so if we convert
> > these documents to Word 2007 I know a lot of departments are going to
> > come back and ask (yell)where their user friendly data entry dialog
> > went. So what I need to do is find a way to create these dialogs
> > with ease without having to manually build userforms for each and
> > every document converted from WordPerfect. Why these are so
> > important is that the documents are being used by non computer savvy
> > users. These Smart Documents will be very important for the project
> > to be completed without any problems.
> >
> > In WordPerfect, only one macro command is needed to load the dialog
> > box. But in Word 2007, with this feature not found, I'll be needing
> > to create the userforms by hand or find a way to automate the
> > creation of the userforms.
> >
> > So yes, I'm looking to find a way to create a Word 2007 template that
> > will allow me to create the userforms with on click of the mouse.
> >
> > Jeff Mathewson
> > OJD
> >
> > "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:%23simLYhtHHA.3468[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> It is impossible to guess what you need to do with these thousands of
> >> documents, but Word is a template and style based system. The idea
> >> is that you have templates containing macros etc pertinent to the
> >> documents you create from them, and then you create new documents
> >> from those templates.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >>
> >> My web site www.gmayor.com
> >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>
> >> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> >>> Graham,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for getting back so soon. Looking at the link
> >>> you supplied may help, and I'll have to look into '5. DocProperty'
> >>> as an option. But the problem I'm going to be facing is we are
> >>> setting this documents up for users who have really no experience
> >>> behind a computer hence why I need a basic userform for the data
> >>> entry.
> >>>
> >>> The only other option I'm seeing would be to create custom
> >>> userforms. This again will be a big issue since we will soon be
> >>> working with thousands of documents.
> >>>
> >>> For this I'm looking into another option which I'll post on Word.VBA
> >>> but throw it out here for a fast yes/no answer:
> >>>
> >>> The other option I'm looking at is to see if I can create a custom
> >>> Word 2007 macro which will be able to create the custom
> >>> userforms/macros itself. This way, all the macro would have to do
> >>> is scan the document and from the field data, build the needed
> >>> userform and code as needed automatically. For this to happen I'll
> >>> need access to the VBA Editor Object. Does Word 2007 give such
> >>> access?
> >>>
> >>> Any other ideas, PLEASE send my way.
> >>>
> >>> Again I ask to vent: Why doesn't Word have this cool feature??
> >>> WordPerfect has it along with Excel, so why they leave Word out of
> >>> the loop?
> >>>
> >>> Last: I do want to share my findings. I believe in the old
> >>> Internet, so anyone interested in hosting this, please let me know.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Jeff Mathewson
> >>> OJD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> >>> news:O2StdTVtHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>> See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Repeating_Data.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >>>>
> >>>> My web site www.gmayor.com
> >>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> >>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One of our biggest problems we are facing moving away from
> >>>>> WordPerfect 7 to Word 2007 is a feature that WordPerfect has
> >>>>> dealing with form fields that as of yet, can't see that Word 2007
> >>>>> has and buying an add-in currently isn't an option.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This feature being with WordPerfect, you can call up a dialog box
> >>>>> to fill in all fields. Something really close to Excel's Form
> >>>>> data entry feature. The closes I have found in Word is the
> >>>>> FILL-IN and ASK form fields. This could work, but I would have
> >>>>> guessed Microsoft would have come up with something more powerful
> >>>>> then this basic prompting? The only other way would be to create
> >>>>> a custom macro/userform---but again, we are dealing with
> >>>>> thousands of documents.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any ideas?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, Jeff.
> >>>>> OJD
>
>


Re: Needed WordPerfect Feature needed for Word - Help
"Jeff Mathewson" <jeffwm[ at ]uswest.net> 6/24/2007 7:34:42 AM
Thanks for that reply!!

I'm putting it into PowerPoint now and printing it!

Jeff
OJD
"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:eW$Q44itHHA.1204[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> If Word Perfect does what you want in the way that you want it, and your
> staff are trained and familiar with its use, why are you changing to Word
> 2007 and making yourself a lot of work?
>
> --
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>
> My web site www.gmayor.com
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> > The problem being with these thousand of documents, they are all in
> > WordPerfect format and we are going to be converting them to Word
> > 2007. Most of the WordPerfect template documents are using the
> > default WordPerfect data entry form dialog box..so if we convert
> > these documents to Word 2007 I know a lot of departments are going to
> > come back and ask (yell)where their user friendly data entry dialog
> > went. So what I need to do is find a way to create these dialogs
> > with ease without having to manually build userforms for each and
> > every document converted from WordPerfect. Why these are so
> > important is that the documents are being used by non computer savvy
> > users. These Smart Documents will be very important for the project
> > to be completed without any problems.
> >
> > In WordPerfect, only one macro command is needed to load the dialog
> > box. But in Word 2007, with this feature not found, I'll be needing
> > to create the userforms by hand or find a way to automate the
> > creation of the userforms.
> >
> > So yes, I'm looking to find a way to create a Word 2007 template that
> > will allow me to create the userforms with on click of the mouse.
> >
> > Jeff Mathewson
> > OJD
> >
> > "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:%23simLYhtHHA.3468[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> It is impossible to guess what you need to do with these thousands of
> >> documents, but Word is a template and style based system. The idea
> >> is that you have templates containing macros etc pertinent to the
> >> documents you create from them, and then you create new documents
> >> from those templates.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >>
> >> My web site www.gmayor.com
> >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>
> >> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> >>> Graham,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for getting back so soon. Looking at the link
> >>> you supplied may help, and I'll have to look into '5. DocProperty'
> >>> as an option. But the problem I'm going to be facing is we are
> >>> setting this documents up for users who have really no experience
> >>> behind a computer hence why I need a basic userform for the data
> >>> entry.
> >>>
> >>> The only other option I'm seeing would be to create custom
> >>> userforms. This again will be a big issue since we will soon be
> >>> working with thousands of documents.
> >>>
> >>> For this I'm looking into another option which I'll post on Word.VBA
> >>> but throw it out here for a fast yes/no answer:
> >>>
> >>> The other option I'm looking at is to see if I can create a custom
> >>> Word 2007 macro which will be able to create the custom
> >>> userforms/macros itself. This way, all the macro would have to do
> >>> is scan the document and from the field data, build the needed
> >>> userform and code as needed automatically. For this to happen I'll
> >>> need access to the VBA Editor Object. Does Word 2007 give such
> >>> access?
> >>>
> >>> Any other ideas, PLEASE send my way.
> >>>
> >>> Again I ask to vent: Why doesn't Word have this cool feature??
> >>> WordPerfect has it along with Excel, so why they leave Word out of
> >>> the loop?
> >>>
> >>> Last: I do want to share my findings. I believe in the old
> >>> Internet, so anyone interested in hosting this, please let me know.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Jeff Mathewson
> >>> OJD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> >>> news:O2StdTVtHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>> See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Repeating_Data.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >>>>
> >>>> My web site www.gmayor.com
> >>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> >>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One of our biggest problems we are facing moving away from
> >>>>> WordPerfect 7 to Word 2007 is a feature that WordPerfect has
> >>>>> dealing with form fields that as of yet, can't see that Word 2007
> >>>>> has and buying an add-in currently isn't an option.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This feature being with WordPerfect, you can call up a dialog box
> >>>>> to fill in all fields. Something really close to Excel's Form
> >>>>> data entry feature. The closes I have found in Word is the
> >>>>> FILL-IN and ASK form fields. This could work, but I would have
> >>>>> guessed Microsoft would have come up with something more powerful
> >>>>> then this basic prompting? The only other way would be to create
> >>>>> a custom macro/userform---but again, we are dealing with
> >>>>> thousands of documents.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any ideas?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, Jeff.
> >>>>> OJD
>
>


Re: Needed WordPerfect Feature needed for Word - Help
"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> 6/24/2007 8:31:30 AM
Ah! Taxpayer's money - the bottomless pit :)

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>

Jeff Mathewson wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Simple: I work for the State Government. And with that, we have
> already deployed Word 2007 and training everyone now.
>
> Jeff
> OJD
>
> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eW$Q44itHHA.1204[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> If Word Perfect does what you want in the way that you want it, and
>> your staff are trained and familiar with its use, why are you
>> changing to Word 2007 and making yourself a lot of work?
>>
>> --
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>
>> My web site www.gmayor.com
>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>
>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
>>> The problem being with these thousand of documents, they are all in
>>> WordPerfect format and we are going to be converting them to Word
>>> 2007. Most of the WordPerfect template documents are using the
>>> default WordPerfect data entry form dialog box..so if we convert
>>> these documents to Word 2007 I know a lot of departments are going
>>> to come back and ask (yell)where their user friendly data entry
>>> dialog went. So what I need to do is find a way to create these
>>> dialogs with ease without having to manually build userforms for
>>> each and every document converted from WordPerfect. Why these are
>>> so important is that the documents are being used by non computer
>>> savvy users. These Smart Documents will be very important for the
>>> project to be completed without any problems.
>>>
>>> In WordPerfect, only one macro command is needed to load the dialog
>>> box. But in Word 2007, with this feature not found, I'll be needing
>>> to create the userforms by hand or find a way to automate the
>>> creation of the userforms.
>>>
>>> So yes, I'm looking to find a way to create a Word 2007 template
>>> that will allow me to create the userforms with on click of the
>>> mouse.
>>>
>>> Jeff Mathewson
>>> OJD
>>>
>>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%23simLYhtHHA.3468[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> It is impossible to guess what you need to do with these thousands
>>>> of documents, but Word is a template and style based system. The
>>>> idea is that you have templates containing macros etc pertinent to
>>>> the documents you create from them, and then you create new
>>>> documents from those templates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>
>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com
>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
>>>>> Graham,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for getting back so soon. Looking at the link
>>>>> you supplied may help, and I'll have to look into '5.
>>>>> DocProperty' as an option. But the problem I'm going to be
>>>>> facing is we are setting this documents up for users who have
>>>>> really no experience behind a computer hence why I need a basic
>>>>> userform for the data entry.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only other option I'm seeing would be to create custom
>>>>> userforms. This again will be a big issue since we will soon be
>>>>> working with thousands of documents.
>>>>>
>>>>> For this I'm looking into another option which I'll post on
>>>>> Word.VBA but throw it out here for a fast yes/no answer:
>>>>>
>>>>> The other option I'm looking at is to see if I can create a custom
>>>>> Word 2007 macro which will be able to create the custom
>>>>> userforms/macros itself. This way, all the macro would have to do
>>>>> is scan the document and from the field data, build the needed
>>>>> userform and code as needed automatically. For this to happen
>>>>> I'll need access to the VBA Editor Object. Does Word 2007 give
>>>>> such access?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other ideas, PLEASE send my way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again I ask to vent: Why doesn't Word have this cool feature??
>>>>> WordPerfect has it along with Excel, so why they leave Word out of
>>>>> the loop?
>>>>>
>>>>> Last: I do want to share my findings. I believe in the old
>>>>> Internet, so anyone interested in hosting this, please let me
>>>>> know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Mathewson
>>>>> OJD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:O2StdTVtHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Repeating_Data.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com
>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of our biggest problems we are facing moving away from
>>>>>>> WordPerfect 7 to Word 2007 is a feature that WordPerfect has
>>>>>>> dealing with form fields that as of yet, can't see that Word
>>>>>>> 2007 has and buying an add-in currently isn't an option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This feature being with WordPerfect, you can call up a dialog
>>>>>>> box to fill in all fields. Something really close to Excel's
>>>>>>> Form data entry feature. The closes I have found in Word is the
>>>>>>> FILL-IN and ASK form fields. This could work, but I would have
>>>>>>> guessed Microsoft would have come up with something more
>>>>>>> powerful then this basic prompting? The only other way would
>>>>>>> be to create a custom macro/userform---but again, we are
>>>>>>> dealing with thousands of documents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Jeff.
>>>>>>> OJD


Re: Needed WordPerfect Feature needed for Word - Help
"Jeff Mathewson" <jeffwm[ at ]uswest.net> 6/24/2007 9:13:18 AM
Getting back at the task at hand,

Before I make extra work for the team and me, (I'm the only vba programmer)
I just need to find out if I'm missing something that Word 2007 may already
have before I do go the VBA route. The closest I have found in Word to get
a basic dialog box is the use of ASK and FILLIN fields. But this would be
slow in that it shows a dialog for each field. I need to know if there is a
way to group these fields into one dialog like, sorry, WP has or anything
else Word 2007 has that I may be missing...

Jeff Mathewson
OJD

"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:eW$Q44itHHA.1204[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> If Word Perfect does what you want in the way that you want it, and your
> staff are trained and familiar with its use, why are you changing to Word
> 2007 and making yourself a lot of work?
>
> --
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>
> My web site www.gmayor.com
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> > The problem being with these thousand of documents, they are all in
> > WordPerfect format and we are going to be converting them to Word
> > 2007. Most of the WordPerfect template documents are using the
> > default WordPerfect data entry form dialog box..so if we convert
> > these documents to Word 2007 I know a lot of departments are going to
> > come back and ask (yell)where their user friendly data entry dialog
> > went. So what I need to do is find a way to create these dialogs
> > with ease without having to manually build userforms for each and
> > every document converted from WordPerfect. Why these are so
> > important is that the documents are being used by non computer savvy
> > users. These Smart Documents will be very important for the project
> > to be completed without any problems.
> >
> > In WordPerfect, only one macro command is needed to load the dialog
> > box. But in Word 2007, with this feature not found, I'll be needing
> > to create the userforms by hand or find a way to automate the
> > creation of the userforms.
> >
> > So yes, I'm looking to find a way to create a Word 2007 template that
> > will allow me to create the userforms with on click of the mouse.
> >
> > Jeff Mathewson
> > OJD
> >
> > "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:%23simLYhtHHA.3468[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> It is impossible to guess what you need to do with these thousands of
> >> documents, but Word is a template and style based system. The idea
> >> is that you have templates containing macros etc pertinent to the
> >> documents you create from them, and then you create new documents
> >> from those templates.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >>
> >> My web site www.gmayor.com
> >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>
> >> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> >>> Graham,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for getting back so soon. Looking at the link
> >>> you supplied may help, and I'll have to look into '5. DocProperty'
> >>> as an option. But the problem I'm going to be facing is we are
> >>> setting this documents up for users who have really no experience
> >>> behind a computer hence why I need a basic userform for the data
> >>> entry.
> >>>
> >>> The only other option I'm seeing would be to create custom
> >>> userforms. This again will be a big issue since we will soon be
> >>> working with thousands of documents.
> >>>
> >>> For this I'm looking into another option which I'll post on Word.VBA
> >>> but throw it out here for a fast yes/no answer:
> >>>
> >>> The other option I'm looking at is to see if I can create a custom
> >>> Word 2007 macro which will be able to create the custom
> >>> userforms/macros itself. This way, all the macro would have to do
> >>> is scan the document and from the field data, build the needed
> >>> userform and code as needed automatically. For this to happen I'll
> >>> need access to the VBA Editor Object. Does Word 2007 give such
> >>> access?
> >>>
> >>> Any other ideas, PLEASE send my way.
> >>>
> >>> Again I ask to vent: Why doesn't Word have this cool feature??
> >>> WordPerfect has it along with Excel, so why they leave Word out of
> >>> the loop?
> >>>
> >>> Last: I do want to share my findings. I believe in the old
> >>> Internet, so anyone interested in hosting this, please let me know.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Jeff Mathewson
> >>> OJD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> >>> news:O2StdTVtHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>> See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Repeating_Data.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >>>>
> >>>> My web site www.gmayor.com
> >>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> >>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One of our biggest problems we are facing moving away from
> >>>>> WordPerfect 7 to Word 2007 is a feature that WordPerfect has
> >>>>> dealing with form fields that as of yet, can't see that Word 2007
> >>>>> has and buying an add-in currently isn't an option.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This feature being with WordPerfect, you can call up a dialog box
> >>>>> to fill in all fields. Something really close to Excel's Form
> >>>>> data entry feature. The closes I have found in Word is the
> >>>>> FILL-IN and ASK form fields. This could work, but I would have
> >>>>> guessed Microsoft would have come up with something more powerful
> >>>>> then this basic prompting? The only other way would be to create
> >>>>> a custom macro/userform---but again, we are dealing with
> >>>>> thousands of documents.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any ideas?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, Jeff.
> >>>>> OJD
>
>


Re: Needed WordPerfect Feature needed for Word - Help
"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> 6/24/2007 10:59:53 AM
In addition to ask and fillin fields, you could look at macrobutton fields
http://www.gmayor.com/Macrobutton.htm and the use of autotext and
autocorrect, but if you really need to collect variable data and put it in a
document, a userform is probably the way forward - Word MVP FAQ - Userforms
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Userforms.htm . There is quite a bit of
information on my old pal Greg Maxey's web site also
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>

Jeff Mathewson wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Getting back at the task at hand,
>
> Before I make extra work for the team and me, (I'm the only vba
> programmer) I just need to find out if I'm missing something that
> Word 2007 may already have before I do go the VBA route. The closest
> I have found in Word to get a basic dialog box is the use of ASK and
> FILLIN fields. But this would be slow in that it shows a dialog for
> each field. I need to know if there is a way to group these fields
> into one dialog like, sorry, WP has or anything else Word 2007 has
> that I may be missing...
>
> Jeff Mathewson
> OJD
>
> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eW$Q44itHHA.1204[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> If Word Perfect does what you want in the way that you want it, and
>> your staff are trained and familiar with its use, why are you
>> changing to Word 2007 and making yourself a lot of work?
>>
>> --
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>
>> My web site www.gmayor.com
>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>
>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
>>> The problem being with these thousand of documents, they are all in
>>> WordPerfect format and we are going to be converting them to Word
>>> 2007. Most of the WordPerfect template documents are using the
>>> default WordPerfect data entry form dialog box..so if we convert
>>> these documents to Word 2007 I know a lot of departments are going
>>> to come back and ask (yell)where their user friendly data entry
>>> dialog went. So what I need to do is find a way to create these
>>> dialogs with ease without having to manually build userforms for
>>> each and every document converted from WordPerfect. Why these are
>>> so important is that the documents are being used by non computer
>>> savvy users. These Smart Documents will be very important for the
>>> project to be completed without any problems.
>>>
>>> In WordPerfect, only one macro command is needed to load the dialog
>>> box. But in Word 2007, with this feature not found, I'll be needing
>>> to create the userforms by hand or find a way to automate the
>>> creation of the userforms.
>>>
>>> So yes, I'm looking to find a way to create a Word 2007 template
>>> that will allow me to create the userforms with on click of the
>>> mouse.
>>>
>>> Jeff Mathewson
>>> OJD
>>>
>>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%23simLYhtHHA.3468[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> It is impossible to guess what you need to do with these thousands
>>>> of documents, but Word is a template and style based system. The
>>>> idea is that you have templates containing macros etc pertinent to
>>>> the documents you create from them, and then you create new
>>>> documents from those templates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>
>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com
>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
>>>>> Graham,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for getting back so soon. Looking at the link
>>>>> you supplied may help, and I'll have to look into '5.
>>>>> DocProperty' as an option. But the problem I'm going to be
>>>>> facing is we are setting this documents up for users who have
>>>>> really no experience behind a computer hence why I need a basic
>>>>> userform for the data entry.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only other option I'm seeing would be to create custom
>>>>> userforms. This again will be a big issue since we will soon be
>>>>> working with thousands of documents.
>>>>>
>>>>> For this I'm looking into another option which I'll post on
>>>>> Word.VBA but throw it out here for a fast yes/no answer:
>>>>>
>>>>> The other option I'm looking at is to see if I can create a custom
>>>>> Word 2007 macro which will be able to create the custom
>>>>> userforms/macros itself. This way, all the macro would have to do
>>>>> is scan the document and from the field data, build the needed
>>>>> userform and code as needed automatically. For this to happen
>>>>> I'll need access to the VBA Editor Object. Does Word 2007 give
>>>>> such access?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other ideas, PLEASE send my way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again I ask to vent: Why doesn't Word have this cool feature??
>>>>> WordPerfect has it along with Excel, so why they leave Word out of
>>>>> the loop?
>>>>>
>>>>> Last: I do want to share my findings. I believe in the old
>>>>> Internet, so anyone interested in hosting this, please let me
>>>>> know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Mathewson
>>>>> OJD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:O2StdTVtHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Repeating_Data.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com
>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of our biggest problems we are facing moving away from
>>>>>>> WordPerfect 7 to Word 2007 is a feature that WordPerfect has
>>>>>>> dealing with form fields that as of yet, can't see that Word
>>>>>>> 2007 has and buying an add-in currently isn't an option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This feature being with WordPerfect, you can call up a dialog
>>>>>>> box to fill in all fields. Something really close to Excel's
>>>>>>> Form data entry feature. The closes I have found in Word is the
>>>>>>> FILL-IN and ASK form fields. This could work, but I would have
>>>>>>> guessed Microsoft would have come up with something more
>>>>>>> powerful then this basic prompting? The only other way would
>>>>>>> be to create a custom macro/userform---but again, we are
>>>>>>> dealing with thousands of documents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Jeff.
>>>>>>> OJD


Re: Needed WordPerfect Feature needed for Word - Help
"Jeff Mathewson" <jeffwm[ at ]uswest.net> 6/25/2007 4:41:51 AM
Graham,

Thanks for the links, I'll take a look at them tomorrow. But for now, when
looking into the guts of Office, I found that Office does have an object for
the VBA Editor. From the CHM file that comes with Office (vbob6.chm) it
looks like I will be able to have a macro create the userforms/macros. More
or less have a macro create a macro...I hope. If I can get it working, then
all I would need to do would be to create a macro that scans the active
document and build a customized userform based on the fields in the
document.

Jeff Mathewson
OJD

"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:uKjWI7ktHHA.4476[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> In addition to ask and fillin fields, you could look at macrobutton fields
> http://www.gmayor.com/Macrobutton.htm and the use of autotext and
> autocorrect, but if you really need to collect variable data and put it in
a
> document, a userform is probably the way forward - Word MVP FAQ -
Userforms
> http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Userforms.htm . There is quite a bit of
> information on my old pal Greg Maxey's web site also
> http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
>
> --
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>
> My web site www.gmayor.com
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> > Getting back at the task at hand,
> >
> > Before I make extra work for the team and me, (I'm the only vba
> > programmer) I just need to find out if I'm missing something that
> > Word 2007 may already have before I do go the VBA route. The closest
> > I have found in Word to get a basic dialog box is the use of ASK and
> > FILLIN fields. But this would be slow in that it shows a dialog for
> > each field. I need to know if there is a way to group these fields
> > into one dialog like, sorry, WP has or anything else Word 2007 has
> > that I may be missing...
> >
> > Jeff Mathewson
> > OJD
> >
> > "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:eW$Q44itHHA.1204[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> If Word Perfect does what you want in the way that you want it, and
> >> your staff are trained and familiar with its use, why are you
> >> changing to Word 2007 and making yourself a lot of work?
> >>
> >> --
> >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >>
> >> My web site www.gmayor.com
> >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>
> >> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> >>> The problem being with these thousand of documents, they are all in
> >>> WordPerfect format and we are going to be converting them to Word
> >>> 2007. Most of the WordPerfect template documents are using the
> >>> default WordPerfect data entry form dialog box..so if we convert
> >>> these documents to Word 2007 I know a lot of departments are going
> >>> to come back and ask (yell)where their user friendly data entry
> >>> dialog went. So what I need to do is find a way to create these
> >>> dialogs with ease without having to manually build userforms for
> >>> each and every document converted from WordPerfect. Why these are
> >>> so important is that the documents are being used by non computer
> >>> savvy users. These Smart Documents will be very important for the
> >>> project to be completed without any problems.
> >>>
> >>> In WordPerfect, only one macro command is needed to load the dialog
> >>> box. But in Word 2007, with this feature not found, I'll be needing
> >>> to create the userforms by hand or find a way to automate the
> >>> creation of the userforms.
> >>>
> >>> So yes, I'm looking to find a way to create a Word 2007 template
> >>> that will allow me to create the userforms with on click of the
> >>> mouse.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff Mathewson
> >>> OJD
> >>>
> >>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> >>> news:%23simLYhtHHA.3468[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>> It is impossible to guess what you need to do with these thousands
> >>>> of documents, but Word is a template and style based system. The
> >>>> idea is that you have templates containing macros etc pertinent to
> >>>> the documents you create from them, and then you create new
> >>>> documents from those templates.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >>>>
> >>>> My web site www.gmayor.com
> >>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> >>>>> Graham,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you very much for getting back so soon. Looking at the link
> >>>>> you supplied may help, and I'll have to look into '5.
> >>>>> DocProperty' as an option. But the problem I'm going to be
> >>>>> facing is we are setting this documents up for users who have
> >>>>> really no experience behind a computer hence why I need a basic
> >>>>> userform for the data entry.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only other option I'm seeing would be to create custom
> >>>>> userforms. This again will be a big issue since we will soon be
> >>>>> working with thousands of documents.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For this I'm looking into another option which I'll post on
> >>>>> Word.VBA but throw it out here for a fast yes/no answer:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The other option I'm looking at is to see if I can create a custom
> >>>>> Word 2007 macro which will be able to create the custom
> >>>>> userforms/macros itself. This way, all the macro would have to do
> >>>>> is scan the document and from the field data, build the needed
> >>>>> userform and code as needed automatically. For this to happen
> >>>>> I'll need access to the VBA Editor Object. Does Word 2007 give
> >>>>> such access?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any other ideas, PLEASE send my way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Again I ask to vent: Why doesn't Word have this cool feature??
> >>>>> WordPerfect has it along with Excel, so why they leave Word out of
> >>>>> the loop?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Last: I do want to share my findings. I believe in the old
> >>>>> Internet, so anyone interested in hosting this, please let me
> >>>>> know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jeff Mathewson
> >>>>> OJD
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:O2StdTVtHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>> See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Repeating_Data.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com
> >>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jeff Mathewson wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> One of our biggest problems we are facing moving away from
> >>>>>>> WordPerfect 7 to Word 2007 is a feature that WordPerfect has
> >>>>>>> dealing with form fields that as of yet, can't see that Word
> >>>>>>> 2007 has and buying an add-in currently isn't an option.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This feature being with WordPerfect, you can call up a dialog
> >>>>>>> box to fill in all fields. Something really close to Excel's
> >>>>>>> Form data entry feature. The closes I have found in Word is the
> >>>>>>> FILL-IN and ASK form fields. This could work, but I would have
> >>>>>>> guessed Microsoft would have come up with something more
> >>>>>>> powerful then this basic prompting? The only other way would
> >>>>>>> be to create a custom macro/userform---but again, we are
> >>>>>>> dealing with thousands of documents.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any ideas?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks, Jeff.
> >>>>>>> OJD
>
>


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