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WORD latest version
"wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca" <wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca> 12/1/2008 3:05:11 PM
Is there any way to switch to the traditional interface? I'm sure the
wholesale change is wonderful for those of the "new and improved"
school but I am an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" reactionary.

Bill King.
Re: WORD latest version
"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> 12/1/2008 3:17:17 PM
No! What you see is what you get. If it wasn't broken why did you replace
it? There are lots of people happily word processing with Word 97 ... and
2000 ... and 2002 ... and 2003!

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wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Is there any way to switch to the traditional interface? I'm sure the
> wholesale change is wonderful for those of the "new and improved"
> school but I am an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" reactionary.
>
> Bill King.


Re: WORD latest version
"wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca" <wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca> 12/1/2008 3:43:16 PM
On Dec 1, 10:17 am, "Graham Mayor" <gma...[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> No! What you see is what you get. If it wasn't broken why did you replace
> it? There are lots of people happily word processing with Word 97 ... and
> 2000 ... and 2002 ... and 2003!
>
> --
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> Graham Mayor -  Word MVP
>
> My web sitewww.gmayor.com
> Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
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>
>
> wm.k...[ at ]sympatico.ca wrote:
> > Is there any way to switch to the traditional interface? I'm sure the
> > wholesale change is wonderful for those of the "new and improved"
> > school but I am an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" reactionary.
>
> > Bill King.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I will tell you why, the answer is interesting. I asked all around and
it was the only CD I could get. I had formerly dumped an earlier
version of WORD from my previous laptop but I know you are not
supposed to do that. I am sure that I could have got some old WORD
software easily enough at a second-hand software store and there are
probably plenty in Toronto, but the trouble with that is that when you
key something like "second hand software" into an electronic yellow
pages you get every god-awful listing in the world except what you
want. And I could not find anywhere in my office the REAL yellow pages
for Toronto (a law office of 40-odd people) so when this guy finally
said "I've got the latest version" I was of course delighted, until
shocked at all the changes. But one cannot chase wild geese forever.

This is why I am a luddite.


Re: WORD latest version
"Herb Tyson [MVP]" <herb[ at ]1x2y3z.xnw> 12/1/2008 11:33:54 PM
Why there is no setting you can choose that will revert to the previous
interface, there are some options:

http://www.addintools.com/english/menuword/

http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/20/111

The 2nd of these offers a free version.

In my own case, I had to learn the new interface (that'll teach me to sign a
pesky contract), and ultimately found considerable relief by making the
Quick Access Toolbar look more like the Word 2003 formatting/standard
toolbars:

http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com/2007/05/02/making-word-2007-a-little-more-familiar/

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


<wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
> Is there any way to switch to the traditional interface? I'm sure the
> wholesale change is wonderful for those of the "new and improved"
> school but I am an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" reactionary.
>
> Bill King.

Bill Gates says I'm a pirate!
"wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca" <wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca> 12/8/2008 3:47:49 PM
On Dec 1, 6:33 pm, "Herb Tyson [MVP]" <h...[ at ]1x2y3z.xnw> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Why there is no setting you can choose that will revert to the previous
> interface, there are some options:
>
> http://www.addintools.com/english/menuword/
>
> http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/20/111
>
> The 2nd of these offers a free version.
>
> In my own case, I had to learn the new interface (that'll teach me to sign a
> pesky contract), and ultimately found considerable relief by making the
> Quick Access Toolbar look more like the Word 2003 formatting/standard
> toolbars:
>
> http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com/2007/05/02/making-word-2007-a-litt...
>
> --
> Herb Tyson MS MVP
> Author of the Word 2007 Bible
> Blog:http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
> Web:http://www.herbtyson.com
>
> <wm.k...[ at ]sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:2c004777-4586-4d0a-a539-48a7bc4863e2[ at ]j39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Is there any way to switch to the traditional interface? I'm sure the
> > wholesale change is wonderful for those of the "new and improved"
> > school but I am an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" reactionary.
>
> > Bill King.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I discovered an additional new feature of WORD 2007: once you use it
24 times, it locks - permanently, I presume. You can see your
documents but make no changes. Not only that, but it accuses you of
piracy. I thought EVERYBODY (I mean, little people like me, not IBM)
just borrowed their friends' software to install programs. Did earlier
versions of WORD have this pirate-apprehension-feature?

On the other hand, the documents I worked on did successfully re-load
back into WORD 97 (I thought someone said it did not work backwards).

Mr. Tyson's tips for making WORD 07 look more like traditional
versions were helpful, but with this weekend piracy episode added to
all the new and unwanted features, I thought 'why bother'. I will just
delete the whole god-awful thing and redouble my search for a good
copy of one of the older versions.

Comments welcome.

Your friendly luddite,
Bill King.

P.S. I do not believe in capital punishment but I might be willing to
consider an exception for Bill Gates.
Re: Bill Gates says I'm a pirate!
"Herb Tyson [MVP]" <herb[ at ]1x2y3z.xnw> 12/8/2008 10:53:46 PM
Here on Earth, unlike wherever you're from, people do not work for free.
Microsoft's thousands of employees have to pay for their clothing, cars,
houses, food, etc. For that reason, they do not give their software away.

If you were misled about how the economy works here, you might try filing a
complaint with your travel agent when you return to your home planet.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


<wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:23ba8404-d76c-4dc0-82e8-1f031bcbdc6a[ at ]x8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...

I discovered an additional new feature of WORD 2007: once you use it
24 times, it locks - permanently, I presume. You can see your
documents but make no changes. Not only that, but it accuses you of
piracy. I thought EVERYBODY (I mean, little people like me, not IBM)
just borrowed their friends' software to install programs. Did earlier
versions of WORD have this pirate-apprehension-feature?

Re: Bill Gates says I'm a pirate!
"wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca" <wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca> 12/10/2008 4:26:25 PM
On Dec 8, 5:53 pm, "Herb Tyson [MVP]" <h...[ at ]1x2y3z.xnw> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Here on Earth, unlike wherever you're from, people do not work for free.
> Microsoft's thousands of employees have to pay for their clothing, cars,
> houses, food, etc. For that reason, they do not give their software away.
>
> If you were misled about how the economy works here, you might try filing a
> complaint with your travel agent when you return to your home planet.
>
> --
> Herb Tyson MS MVP
> Author of the Word 2007 Bible
> Blog:http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
> Web:http://www.herbtyson.com
>
> <wm.k...[ at ]sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:23ba8404-d76c-4dc0-82e8-1f031bcbdc6a[ at ]x8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>
> I discovered an additional new feature of WORD 2007: once you use it
> 24 times, it locks - permanently, I presume. You can see your
> documents but make no changes. Not only that, but it accuses you of
> piracy. I thought EVERYBODY (I mean, little people like me, not IBM)
> just borrowed their friends' software to install programs. Did earlier
> versions of WORD have this pirate-apprehension-feature?

Oh, I don't know Mr. Tyson, the little people have been sharing word
processing programs for 25-odd years now and it's never seemed to
bother Microsoft before. Probably helped to make WORD as popular as it
is.

And if thousands of people were employed on WORD 2007, I don't know
what they were doing. To me it is just capitalism run rampant - make
something look different, call it improved, make it as incompatible
with its predecessors as possible, change the switches and sell
training. There is no productivity gain whatever.

All I want to do is type. Word Processing has BEEN invented. I would
gladly contribute a few dollars to the development of a basic public-
domain computer-typing programme if I thought it would be permanently
available in the same basic form and widely used. Kind-of like the
QWERTY keyboard (although I know it's not the most efficient design)
and the typewriter mechanism. Or Google chat-groups. Basic technology,
non-proprietary. For highly specialized applications, I am sure there
is some benefit to the latest update of WORD and I appreciate the
information persons such as yourself willingly provide, but I continue
to believe that the vast majority of users find these ongoing word-
processor updates a nuisance and their primary appeal is to novelty-
seekers - and that Microsoft is ingenious at foisting this stuff on
people who don't want it.

That's just my view. I don't think it's extra-terrestrial.

Bill King

Re: Bill Gates says I'm a pirate!
"Herb Tyson [MVP]" <herb[ at ]1x2y3z.xnw> 12/11/2008 12:57:22 AM
If all you want to do is type, Notepad and Wordpad do quite nicely... and
they come with Windows, and without piracy issues. If you want something
higher powered, OpenOffice is free. It is quite good, has been around for
years, and comes without piracy issues.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


<wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>All I want to do is type.

Re: Bill Gates says I'm a pirate!
"Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups[ at ]gmail.com> 12/12/2008 3:38:43 PM

<wm.king[ at ]sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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On Dec 8, 5:53 pm, "Herb Tyson [MVP]" <h...[ at ]1x2y3z.xnw> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Here on Earth, unlike wherever you're from, people do not work for free.
> Microsoft's thousands of employees have to pay for their clothing, cars,
> houses, food, etc. For that reason, they do not give their software away.
>
> If you were misled about how the economy works here, you might try filing
> a
> complaint with your travel agent when you return to your home planet.
>
> --
> Herb Tyson MS MVP
> Author of the Word 2007 Bible
> Blog:http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
> Web:http://www.herbtyson.com
>
> <wm.k...[ at ]sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:23ba8404-d76c-4dc0-82e8-1f031bcbdc6a[ at ]x8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>
> I discovered an additional new feature of WORD 2007: once you use it
> 24 times, it locks - permanently, I presume. You can see your
> documents but make no changes. Not only that, but it accuses you of
> piracy. I thought EVERYBODY (I mean, little people like me, not IBM)
> just borrowed their friends' software to install programs. Did earlier
> versions of WORD have this pirate-apprehension-feature?

Oh, I don't know Mr. Tyson, the little people have been sharing word
processing programs for 25-odd years now and it's never seemed to
bother Microsoft before. Probably helped to make WORD as popular as it
is.

And if thousands of people were employed on WORD 2007, I don't know
what they were doing. To me it is just capitalism run rampant - make
something look different, call it improved, make it as incompatible
with its predecessors as possible, change the switches and sell
training. There is no productivity gain whatever.

All I want to do is type. Word Processing has BEEN invented. I would
gladly contribute a few dollars to the development of a basic public-
domain computer-typing programme if I thought it would be permanently
available in the same basic form and widely used. Kind-of like the
QWERTY keyboard (although I know it's not the most efficient design)
and the typewriter mechanism. Or Google chat-groups. Basic technology,
non-proprietary. For highly specialized applications, I am sure there
is some benefit to the latest update of WORD and I appreciate the
information persons such as yourself willingly provide, but I continue
to believe that the vast majority of users find these ongoing word-
processor updates a nuisance and their primary appeal is to novelty-
seekers - and that Microsoft is ingenious at foisting this stuff on
people who don't want it.

That's just my view. I don't think it's extra-terrestrial.

Bill King

==========
Of course, in societies that are "free", you are entitled to your views and
to express them. There are certain exceptions (liable, treason, & al).
However, putting certain of them into action might result in various pains
and penalties should you contravene any laws or regulations.

You might be incorrect in your assessment of MS's level of upset with
pirates and smaller-scale violators of their copyright, trademark and other
legal protections and rights under law. I suspect their discomfit led to
development of the various registration and similar schemes which they have
implemented. One can argue forever about copyright, patent protection and
the like. However, for me those cows have come home.

Regardless, there are free alternatives. Try Open Office. Word processor
documents are reasonably compatible with MS Word. (Save in Word format.
Also, there is an available converter). Compatibility is not complete.
Certain formatting might need some adjustment.

http://www.openoffice.org/

--

Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007


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