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onenote location
"minimus" <spammergetthisemail[ at ]live.co.uk> 12/26/2008 12:02:02 PM

When I open tools > options > save > paths

ON shows that the default notebook location:

\\?\Volume{cd49c6f2-7d7d-11dd-975f-001aa0bb1e87}\ON\Others

What might be this saying?
I normally keep my notes on a usb stick.

When I am offline in ON (i.e. when my usb stick is not plugged in)
I search in my computer the ON files but I cannot find them.

I checked the cache files but there are only word documents that I attached
to a ON page.
I dont see my notebooks and the sections...

Where are my ON files???????

Re: onenote location
"Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> 12/26/2008 2:05:25 PM
If the default location is on a removeable storage device like a USB stick,
that is the correct behind-the-scenes notation for that location.

What you're seeing is expected behavior. OneNote stores the files in
local cache file whose internal structure is not intended to be viewed or
modified from Windows. OneNote knows how to view and modify the
information in that cache file. If you're looking for OneNote data, either
use the search tools within OneNote, or the Windows Desktop Search tools
which are a separate download for XP or are built-into Vista.

"minimus" <spammergetthisemail[ at ]live.co.uk> wrote in
news:gj2h3r$60u$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org:

[Quoted Text]
> When I open tools > options > save > paths
>
> ON shows that the default notebook location:
>
> \\?\Volume{cd49c6f2-7d7d-11dd-975f-001aa0bb1e87}\ON\Others
>
> What might be this saying?
> I normally keep my notes on a usb stick.
>
> When I am offline in ON (i.e. when my usb stick is not plugged in)
> I search in my computer the ON files but I cannot find them.
>
> I checked the cache files but there are only word documents that I
> attached to a ON page.
> I dont see my notebooks and the sections...
>
> Where are my ON files???????
>
>

Re: onenote location
"minimus" <spammergetthisemail[ at ]live.co.uk> 12/26/2008 6:57:54 PM

"Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> wrote in message
news:ucD4AM2ZJHA.6036[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> If the default location is on a removeable storage device like a USB
> stick,
> that is the correct behind-the-scenes notation for that location.
>
> What you're seeing is expected behavior. OneNote stores the files in
> local cache file whose internal structure is not intended to be viewed or
> modified from Windows. OneNote knows how to view and modify the
> information in that cache file. If you're looking for OneNote data,
> either
> use the search tools within OneNote, or the Windows Desktop Search tools
> which are a separate download for XP or are built-into Vista.

A hidden local cache file? I dont get it. I simply want to see my ON files.
Why it is supposed to be hidden?

I want to see those files on my computer....

Re: onenote location
"Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> 12/26/2008 8:45:49 PM
The files are Officially stored on the USB stick. If the USB stick isn't
plugged in, OneNote uses the local cached copies of the ON content and then
syncs changes to the stick when it is plugged in.

By design, there is no way to directly interact with the cached files.

If you want to see your ON content, just navigate around in OneNote.

"minimus" <spammergetthisemail[ at ]live.co.uk> wrote in
news:gj39fk$q5d$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org:

[Quoted Text]
> "Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:ucD4AM2ZJHA.6036[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> If the default location is on a removeable storage device like a USB
>> stick,
>> that is the correct behind-the-scenes notation for that location.
>>
>> What you're seeing is expected behavior. OneNote stores the files in
>> local cache file whose internal structure is not intended to be
>> viewed or modified from Windows. OneNote knows how to view and
>> modify the information in that cache file. If you're looking for
>> OneNote data, either
>> use the search tools within OneNote, or the Windows Desktop Search
>> tools which are a separate download for XP or are built-into Vista.
>
> A hidden local cache file? I dont get it. I simply want to see my ON
> files. Why it is supposed to be hidden?
>
> I want to see those files on my computer....
>
>

Re: onenote location
"minimus" <spammergetthisemail[ at ]live.co.uk> 12/26/2008 10:26:43 PM

"Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23YDkwr5ZJHA.3548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> The files are Officially stored on the USB stick. If the USB stick isn't
> plugged in, OneNote uses the local cached copies of the ON content and
> then
> syncs changes to the stick when it is plugged in.
>
> By design, there is no way to directly interact with the cached files.

But if I keep my files on the computer, then I can interact with the cach
files,am I right?
Or am I not allowed to see the caache files in any case?


Re: onenote location
"Wickiup" <BeepBeep[ at ]Roadrunner.com> 12/26/2008 10:43:33 PM
On my computer the cache files and backup files are here:

Docs & Setting>Owner>Local Setings>kApplication Data>Microsoft>OneNote>12.0
(meaning office 12.0)

The cache files and Backup folder is here.

Others have files in different locations but this may give you an option.
The cache files are visible as are the Backup files. I do highly recommend
you do not change any thing you find except that in the Backup folder you
can delete a Notebook ( I would not swear this is totally SOP but it worked
for me)

-*-
Jim Curts


"minimus" <spammergetthisemail[ at ]live.co.uk> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> "Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23YDkwr5ZJHA.3548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> The files are Officially stored on the USB stick. If the USB stick isn't
>> plugged in, OneNote uses the local cached copies of the ON content and
>> then
>> syncs changes to the stick when it is plugged in.
>>
>> By design, there is no way to directly interact with the cached files.
>
> But if I keep my files on the computer, then I can interact with the cach
> files,am I right?
> Or am I not allowed to see the caache files in any case?
>
>


Re: onenote location
"Wickiup" <BeepBeep[ at ]Roadrunner.com> 12/26/2008 10:48:48 PM
I sent the previous message too soon.

In OneNote select Tools>Options>Save then read all of the info in the drop
down box.

-*-

Jim Curts
"minimus" <spammergetthisemail[ at ]live.co.uk> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> "Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23YDkwr5ZJHA.3548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> The files are Officially stored on the USB stick. If the USB stick isn't
>> plugged in, OneNote uses the local cached copies of the ON content and
>> then
>> syncs changes to the stick when it is plugged in.
>>
>> By design, there is no way to directly interact with the cached files.
>
> But if I keep my files on the computer, then I can interact with the cach
> files,am I right?
> Or am I not allowed to see the caache files in any case?
>
>


Re: onenote location
"minimus" <spammergetthisemail[ at ]live.co.uk> 12/27/2008 10:42:08 AM

"Wickiup" <BeepBeep[ at ]Roadrunner.com> wrote in message
news:ebt4gt6ZJHA.1188[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> On my computer the cache files and backup files are here:
>
> Docs & Setting>Owner>Local Setings>kApplication
> Data>Microsoft>OneNote>12.0 (meaning office 12.0)
>
> The cache files and Backup folder is here.
>
> Others have files in different locations but this may give you an option.
> The cache files are visible as are the Backup files. I do highly recommend
> you do not change any thing you find except that in the Backup folder you
> can delete a Notebook ( I would not swear this is totally SOP but it
> worked for me)

Allright thanks a lot for the info Wickiup!

Re: onenote location
"Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> 12/27/2008 2:25:45 PM
As others have pointed out, you can certainly navigate to the cache
location, but the files are not in the same format as "normal" OneNote
sections, and are not intended to be directly manipulated.

Just use the OneNote UI to manage your data. Periodically sync to the USB
stick. You'll be fine.

"minimus" <spammergetthisemail[ at ]live.co.uk> wrote in
news:gj3ln5$1h0$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org:

[Quoted Text]
> "Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23YDkwr5ZJHA.3548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> The files are Officially stored on the USB stick. If the USB stick
>> isn't plugged in, OneNote uses the local cached copies of the ON
>> content and then
>> syncs changes to the stick when it is plugged in.
>>
>> By design, there is no way to directly interact with the cached
>> files.
>
> But if I keep my files on the computer, then I can interact with the
> cach files,am I right?
> Or am I not allowed to see the caache files in any case?
>
>

Re: onenote location
"minimus" <spammergetthisemail[ at ]live.co.uk> 12/27/2008 4:15:59 PM

"Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> wrote in message
news:%238VYC8CaJHA.5340[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> As others have pointed out, you can certainly navigate to the cache
> location, but the files are not in the same format as "normal" OneNote
> sections, and are not intended to be directly manipulated.
>
> Just use the OneNote UI to manage your data. Periodically sync to the USB
> stick. You'll be fine.

Allright thank you.

Alhtough my sync window does not appear anymore...

Re: onenote location
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 12/27/2008 7:09:45 PM
minimus wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>> The files are Officially stored on the USB stick. If the USB
>> stick isn't plugged in, OneNote uses the local cached copies of
>> the ON content and then
>> syncs changes to the stick when it is plugged in.
>>
>> By design, there is no way to directly interact with the cached
>> files.
>
> But if I keep my files on the computer, then I can interact with
> the cach files,am I right?

As Erik already explained, in the *cache* there are no data which to be
touched *directly* (without ON).
The situation is just the same when the notebooks are stored on the
computer itself (not on an USB-stick) as in your case.

In case the notebook files are stored on the computer ON works the same
way as if they were stored on the stick. The *cache* is the playground
where ON works.
Main difference: if the notebook files are sitting the stick, ON synchs
with the files held there. If the notebooks are stored on a stick, ON
synchs with the files held there.
And therefore one has to keep the notebook files on *one* device only -
either on the computer or on the stick. Keeping them in more than just
one place just spoils synching.

> Or am I not allowed to see the cache files in any case?

What for? It's just data in a special format which can only be handled
by ON.

Rainald

Re: onenote location
"minimus" <spammergetthisemail[ at ]live.co.uk> 12/27/2008 10:35:47 PM

"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
> minimus wrote:

>> Or am I not allowed to see the cache files in any case?
>
> What for? It's just data in a special format which can only be handled
> by ON.

Because it may be easier to arrange the files in win explorer.
For example to rename the sections, move the section folders etc...

Re: onenote location
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 12/28/2008 10:36:28 AM
minimus schrieb:

[Quoted Text]
>>> Or am I not allowed to see the cache files in any case?
>>
>> What for? It's just data in a special format which can only be
>> handled by ON.
>
> Because it may be easier to arrange the files in win explorer.
> For example to rename the sections, move the section folders etc...

You'll have to do this on the *stick* and it's easy enough.

1.) Synch notebooks.
2.) Close the notebooks on the PC,
3.) Empty the cache,
4.) close ON,
5.) Re-arrange the files with the Win Explorer,
6.) Re-open the notebooks in ON.

Rainald


Re: onenote location
"minimus" <spammergetthisemail[ at ]live.co.uk> 12/30/2008 9:49:02 AM

"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
> minimus schrieb:
>
>>>> Or am I not allowed to see the cache files in any case?
>>>
>>> What for? It's just data in a special format which can only be
>>> handled by ON.
>>
>> Because it may be easier to arrange the files in win explorer.
>> For example to rename the sections, move the section folders etc...
>
> You'll have to do this on the *stick* and it's easy enough.
>
> 1.) Synch notebooks.
> 2.) Close the notebooks on the PC,
> 3.) Empty the cache,
> 4.) close ON,
> 5.) Re-arrange the files with the Win Explorer,
> 6.) Re-open the notebooks in ON.

Thanks!

Re: onenote location
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 12/30/2008 7:20:17 PM
minimus schrieb:
[Quoted Text]
>>>>> Or am I not allowed to see the cache files in any case?
>>>>
>>>> What for? It's just data in a special format which can only be
>>>> handled by ON.
>>>
>>> Because it may be easier to arrange the files in win explorer.
>>> For example to rename the sections, move the section folders
>>> etc...
>>
>> You'll have to do this on the *stick* and it's easy enough.
>>
>> 1.) Synch notebooks.
>> 2.) Close the notebooks on the PC,
>> 3.) Empty the cache,
>> 4.) close ON,
>> 5.) Re-arrange the files with the Win Explorer,
>> 6.) Re-open the notebooks in ON.
>
> Thanks!

Da nada! That's what we are here for ;-)

Rainald

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