Office 2007 normal.dot on Vista "Russ Green" <russ-NO[ at ]SPAM-openarch.co.uk> 6/29/2007 7:58:18 AM I have office 2007 deployed in my domain and using group policy to point user and workgroup template paths to a read only folder on the domain server.....no problems with my XP clients but I've just added a Vista client and everytime Word closes it tries to update normal.dotm (I don't have normal.dotm only normal.dot) in the shared path. This obviously generates an series of dialog boxes as the path is read only. How do I solve this? Russ

Re: Office 2007 normal.dot on Vista gls858 <gls858[ at ]yahoo.com> 6/29/2007 4:31:15 PM Russ Green wrote: [Quoted Text] > I have office 2007 deployed in my domain and using group policy to point > user and workgroup template paths to a read only folder on the domain > server.....no problems with my XP clients but I've just added a Vista client > and everytime Word closes it tries to update normal.dotm (I don't have > normal.dotm only normal.dot) in the shared path. > > This obviously generates an series of dialog boxes as the path is read only. > > How do I solve this? > > Russ > > Don't know if this will work or not but you might try going into options and setting the default save format to 97-2003 format. gls858

Re: Office 2007 normal.dot on Vista "Herb Tyson [MVP]" <herb[ at ]1x2y3z.xnw> 6/29/2007 10:10:22 PM Word 2007 is designed to create Normal.dotm to maintain/save user customizations/styles/etc. When Normal.dotm does not exist, Word 2007 load an available Normal.dot, but is genetically disposed to use what it can from Normal.dot to create Normal.dotm either when Save All is issued from within Word, or upon exiting. Word depends upon being able to do this, and it will continue until normal.dotm exists. I can appreciate wanting to lock things down so users can't change Normal.dotm, but that's not the way Word is designed to work. The only work-around I can see would be to go ahead and create Normal.dotm and put it into your read-only folder. I wouldn't want to be one of your users, though. Without the ability to customize Word 2007, it would be unbearable as a work tool, and I wouldn't use it. Note that there is a mechanism for distributing group styles via template, etc., but it's in using the Workgroup Templates folder (not the User Templates folder), and/or using global .dot, .dotx, or .dotm files. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Russ Green" <russ-NO[ at ]SPAM-openarch.co.uk> wrote in message news:edaeEPiuHHA.4476[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] >I have office 2007 deployed in my domain and using group policy to point >user and workgroup template paths to a read only folder on the domain >server.....no problems with my XP clients but I've just added a Vista >client and everytime Word closes it tries to update normal.dotm (I don't >have normal.dotm only normal.dot) in the shared path. > > This obviously generates an series of dialog boxes as the path is read > only. > > How do I solve this? > > Russ >

Re: Office 2007 normal.dot on Vista "Tim" <tim_at_overthere.com> 6/29/2007 10:44:51 PM Hi Herb, Just wondering...isn't normal.dotm just for macro-enabled templates and normal.dotx the "new" normal.dot? Maybe I'm missing something... Tim "Herb Tyson [MVP]" <herb[ at ]1x2y3z.xnw> wrote in message news:B50778F2-D87F-4D04-8B40-BF2A897B2867[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Word 2007 is designed to create Normal.dotm to maintain/save user > customizations/styles/etc. When Normal.dotm does not exist, Word 2007 load > an available Normal.dot, but is genetically disposed to use what it can > from Normal.dot to create Normal.dotm either when Save All is issued from > within Word, or upon exiting. > > Word depends upon being able to do this, and it will continue until > normal.dotm exists. > > I can appreciate wanting to lock things down so users can't change > Normal.dotm, but that's not the way Word is designed to work. > > The only work-around I can see would be to go ahead and create Normal.dotm > and put it into your read-only folder. I wouldn't want to be one of your > users, though. Without the ability to customize Word 2007, it would be > unbearable as a work tool, and I wouldn't use it. > > Note that there is a mechanism for distributing group styles via template, > etc., but it's in using the Workgroup Templates folder (not the User > Templates folder), and/or using global .dot, .dotx, or .dotm files. > > -- > Herb Tyson MS MVP > Author of the Word 2007 Bible > Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com > Web: http://www.herbtyson.com > > > "Russ Green" <russ-NO[ at ]SPAM-openarch.co.uk> wrote in message > news:edaeEPiuHHA.4476[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>I have office 2007 deployed in my domain and using group policy to point >>user and workgroup template paths to a read only folder on the domain >>server.....no problems with my XP clients but I've just added a Vista >>client and everytime Word closes it tries to update normal.dotm (I don't >>have normal.dotm only normal.dot) in the shared path. >> >> This obviously generates an series of dialog boxes as the path is read >> only. >> >> How do I solve this? >> >> Russ >> >

Re: Office 2007 normal.dot on Vista "Herb Tyson [MVP]" <herb[ at ]1x2y3z.xnw> 6/29/2007 11:24:34 PM In some of the early betas, Word would create Normal.dotx, however, I've never seen the released version do it. Yes, .dotm does mean macro-enabled. You can disable macros in other ways, however (Word Options - Trust Center - Macros). The only Normal.dotx files I've seen are those that were left-over from a beta, or which were created deliberately (such as I just did) for experimental purposes. Even if you create Normal.dotx and put it into the templates folder, Word will ignore it, and will continue to create Normal.dotm upon exit. Word 2007 is designed to load only Normal.dotm or Normal.dot when started, and to automatically save only Normal.dotm automatically upon exit. (You can, of course, associate Normal.dot or any other .dot file with any given document, and make changes to it... but this is apart from Word 2007's dependency upon Normal.dotm.) This is based upon observation and confirmation from Microsoft when I asked during the beta. If someone else knows of a registry kludge to get Word 2007 to use a normal.dotx file... I've not heard of it. But, this is Word... so, that's no guarantee. ;-) -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Tim" <tim_at_overthere.com> wrote in message news:F04DF373-B13B-4D20-8CCA-E6322EE52AA9[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Hi Herb, > > Just wondering...isn't normal.dotm just for macro-enabled templates and > normal.dotx the "new" normal.dot? Maybe I'm missing something... > > Tim > > "Herb Tyson [MVP]" <herb[ at ]1x2y3z.xnw> wrote in message > news:B50778F2-D87F-4D04-8B40-BF2A897B2867[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Word 2007 is designed to create Normal.dotm to maintain/save user >> customizations/styles/etc. When Normal.dotm does not exist, Word 2007 >> load an available Normal.dot, but is genetically disposed to use what it >> can from Normal.dot to create Normal.dotm either when Save All is issued >> from within Word, or upon exiting. >> >> Word depends upon being able to do this, and it will continue until >> normal.dotm exists. >> >> I can appreciate wanting to lock things down so users can't change >> Normal.dotm, but that's not the way Word is designed to work. >> >> The only work-around I can see would be to go ahead and create >> Normal.dotm and put it into your read-only folder. I wouldn't want to be >> one of your users, though. Without the ability to customize Word 2007, it >> would be unbearable as a work tool, and I wouldn't use it. >> >> Note that there is a mechanism for distributing group styles via >> template, etc., but it's in using the Workgroup Templates folder (not the >> User Templates folder), and/or using global .dot, .dotx, or .dotm files. >> >> -- >> Herb Tyson MS MVP >> Author of the Word 2007 Bible >> Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com >> Web: http://www.herbtyson.com >> >> >> "Russ Green" <russ-NO[ at ]SPAM-openarch.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:edaeEPiuHHA.4476[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>I have office 2007 deployed in my domain and using group policy to point >>>user and workgroup template paths to a read only folder on the domain >>>server.....no problems with my XP clients but I've just added a Vista >>>client and everytime Word closes it tries to update normal.dotm (I don't >>>have normal.dotm only normal.dot) in the shared path. >>> >>> This obviously generates an series of dialog boxes as the path is read >>> only. >>> >>> How do I solve this? >>> >>> Russ >>> >> >

Re: Office 2007 normal.dot on Vista "Russ Green" <russ-NO[ at ]SPAM-openarch.co.uk> 6/30/2007 8:09:45 AM Thanks for the reply herb.... So I'll let users update their own copy of normal.dotm but not the version in the workgroup folder. I have styles in templates anyway so that's not too bad I suppose. Thanks