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Thread: Wireless and Access

Wireless and Access
"RobUCSD via AccessMonster.com" <u34500[ at ]uwe> 6/3/2007 5:55:40 PM
I have a access mde front end deployed over citrix with a mdb be on a file
server. This application is used in various operating rooms in our hospital.
I'd like user's to be able to access the application (via citrix) over a
wireless LAN as the nurses who enter data in the app during procedurec would
like to do so on mobile workstations (rolling carts). Using a wireless LAN
with a wirelss router (which contects to our wire based LAN) in each OR seems
like a good way to it.

I've read on AM that this may not be a good idea as wireless conectivity is
not as reliable as our ground based LANs. I'm wondering if with the set up as
I described it, would I be better off making the RN's drag around a LAN line
conected to the mobile work station?

thanks for your imput, I love this web site! Rob

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Re: Wireless and Access
"Douglas J. Steele" <NOSPAM_djsteele[ at ]NOSPAM_canada.com> 6/3/2007 6:12:06 PM
Unless they need to know what the other nurses have updated, I think you'd
be best off using replication. Once they're back to their desk, they can
hook up to the LAN and update the master database.

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"RobUCSD via AccessMonster.com" <u34500[ at ]uwe> wrote in message
news:7328298e26bf0[ at ]uwe...
[Quoted Text]
>I have a access mde front end deployed over citrix with a mdb be on a file
> server. This application is used in various operating rooms in our
> hospital.
> I'd like user's to be able to access the application (via citrix) over a
> wireless LAN as the nurses who enter data in the app during procedurec
> would
> like to do so on mobile workstations (rolling carts). Using a wireless LAN
> with a wirelss router (which contects to our wire based LAN) in each OR
> seems
> like a good way to it.
>
> I've read on AM that this may not be a good idea as wireless conectivity
> is
> not as reliable as our ground based LANs. I'm wondering if with the set up
> as
> I described it, would I be better off making the RN's drag around a LAN
> line
> conected to the mobile work station?
>
> thanks for your imput, I love this web site! Rob
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.accessmonster.com
>


Re: Wireless and Access
"RobUCSD via AccessMonster.com" <u34500[ at ]uwe> 6/3/2007 6:29:13 PM
I'd rather not do replication as I have little experience with it and the
RN's do need to see updates to the schedule, etc. So even with the set up as
I described you think it would be too risky? If so, I'll have them drag
around a LAN line. Thanks in advance.Rob

Douglas J. Steele wrote:
[Quoted Text]
>Unless they need to know what the other nurses have updated, I think you'd
>be best off using replication. Once they're back to their desk, they can
>hook up to the LAN and update the master database.
>
>>I have a access mde front end deployed over citrix with a mdb be on a file
>> server. This application is used in various operating rooms in our
>[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>
>> thanks for your imput, I love this web site! Rob

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Re: Wireless and Access
"Tony Toews [MVP]" <ttoews[ at ]telusplanet.net> 6/3/2007 6:44:51 PM
"RobUCSD via AccessMonster.com" <u34500[ at ]uwe> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>I have a access mde front end deployed over citrix with a mdb be on a file
>server. This application is used in various operating rooms in our hospital.
>I'd like user's to be able to access the application (via citrix) over a
>wireless LAN as the nurses who enter data in the app during procedurec would
>like to do so on mobile workstations (rolling carts). Using a wireless LAN
>with a wirelss router (which contects to our wire based LAN) in each OR seems
>like a good way to it.
>
>I've read on AM that this may not be a good idea as wireless conectivity is
>not as reliable as our ground based LANs. I'm wondering if with the set up as
>I described it, would I be better off making the RN's drag around a LAN line
>conected to the mobile work station?

Wireless connectivity from the mobile workstations actually running
Access MDB/MDE's to a file server is strongly not recommended.

However if the mobile workstations are connecting to Citrix servers
via wireless then that's just fine. We recommend folk who need to use
wireless to user either Terminal Server/Citrix or SQL Server.

<digression>This assumes, of course, that the Terminal Server/Citrix
servers aren't in turn using wireless to connect to the file server.
However that is exceedingly unlikely. <smile> And any IT folks which
do so should really consider a career in, ummm, hmm I was going to
suggest a very large corporate hog farm but that would be unfair to
the hogs.

(I have relatives who run hog farms. As a teenager I spent two
summers feeding hogs and cleaning hog barns with a snow shovel and
wheel barrow.) </digression>

Tony
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Re: Wireless and Access
"RobUCSD via AccessMonster.com" <u34500[ at ]uwe> 6/3/2007 10:11:42 PM
Thank for your feed back. We will proceed as planned with the citrix set up
as I described it and with the wireless routers in each of the OR's. Thanks
again, Robert

Tony Toews [MVP] wrote:
[Quoted Text]
>>I have a access mde front end deployed over citrix with a mdb be on a file
>>server. This application is used in various operating rooms in our hospital.
>[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>I described it, would I be better off making the RN's drag around a LAN line
>>conected to the mobile work station?
>
>Wireless connectivity from the mobile workstations actually running
>Access MDB/MDE's to a file server is strongly not recommended.
>
>However if the mobile workstations are connecting to Citrix servers
>via wireless then that's just fine. We recommend folk who need to use
>wireless to user either Terminal Server/Citrix or SQL Server.
>
><digression>This assumes, of course, that the Terminal Server/Citrix
>servers aren't in turn using wireless to connect to the file server.
>However that is exceedingly unlikely. <smile> And any IT folks which
>do so should really consider a career in, ummm, hmm I was going to
>suggest a very large corporate hog farm but that would be unfair to
>the hogs.
>
>(I have relatives who run hog farms. As a teenager I spent two
>summers feeding hogs and cleaning hog barns with a snow shovel and
>wheel barrow.) </digression>
>
>Tony

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Re: Wireless and Access
"Albert D. Kallal" <PleaseNOOOsPAMmkallal[ at ]msn.com> 6/4/2007 6:28:25 AM
"RobUCSD via AccessMonster.com" <u34500[ at ]uwe> wrote in message
news:7328298e26bf0[ at ]uwe...
[Quoted Text]
>I have a access mde front end deployed over citrix with a mdb be on a file
> server.

If your using citrix....then you much home free. Even a total break in the
connection, or hitting the re-set button on your client computer will NOT
hurt this.

In fact, if you accidentally pull the plug on the client computer...you
simply re-boot..and launch the remote desktop...you be resumed exactly were
you left off..


your use of citrix is ideal...and especially when you using wireless...

Access never makes the trip down the wire...and thus your safe....


--
Albert D. Kallal (Access MVP)
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
pleaseNOOSpamKallal[ at ]msn.com


Re: Wireless and Access
"David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet[ at ]dfenton.com.invalid> 6/4/2007 1:58:31 PM
"RobUCSD via AccessMonster.com" <u34500[ at ]uwe> wrote in
news:7328298e26bf0[ at ]uwe:

[Quoted Text]
> I have a access mde front end deployed over citrix with a mdb be
> on a file server. This application is used in various operating
> rooms in our hospital. I'd like user's to be able to access the
> application (via citrix) over a wireless LAN as the nurses who
> enter data in the app during procedurec would like to do so on
> mobile workstations (rolling carts). Using a wireless LAN with a
> wirelss router (which contects to our wire based LAN) in each OR
> seems like a good way to it.
>
> I've read on AM that this may not be a good idea as wireless
> conectivity is not as reliable as our ground based LANs. I'm
> wondering if with the set up as I described it, would I be better
> off making the RN's drag around a LAN line conected to the mobile
> work station?

If they are running it via Citrix Terminal Server, then there's no
issue. The issue with Access and wireless is with an Access front
end connected across a wireless connection to a Jet back end. If the
back end is SQL Server or some other server database, it's not an
issue. And if you're not connecting across the wire (as you are not
with a remote session running on Windows Terminal Server or Citrix),
then it's also not an issue.

> thanks for your imput, I love this web site!

What website? You're using a website that republishes public Usenet
groups that are available without using that website at all. I'm not
pleased that sites like Access Monster are repackaging Usenet
content as though it's their own -- it's misleading, in my opinion,
and borderline copyright violation.

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Re: Wireless and Access
"David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet[ at ]dfenton.com.invalid> 6/4/2007 1:59:58 PM
"Albert D. Kallal" <PleaseNOOOsPAMmkallal[ at ]msn.com> wrote in
news:#AtyPGnpHHA.3368[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

[Quoted Text]
> In fact, if you accidentally pull the plug on the client
> computer...you simply re-boot..and launch the remote desktop...you
> be resumed exactly were you left off..

Well, that's assuming that the Citrix server is configured to not
close a session when the connection is dropped.

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Re: Wireless and Access
"RobUCSD via AccessMonster.com" <u34500[ at ]uwe> 6/4/2007 4:11:40 PM
David, I should have said website(s). I use both access monster and the
microsoft access user formum. So I love them both because they've been
extremely helpfull to me (primarily msa user forum.) I'm just a application
developer so I don't know re: am and Usenet stuff. But I know I've been
helped by both because not everything that appears on msa user forum appears
on ma and visa versa.

My intent was just to say thank you to all of you who have helped me so very
much.

Thanks again,

Rob



David W. Fenton wrote:
[Quoted Text]
>> I have a access mde front end deployed over citrix with a mdb be
>> on a file server. This application is used in various operating
>[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> off making the RN's drag around a LAN line conected to the mobile
>> work station?
>
>If they are running it via Citrix Terminal Server, then there's no
>issue. The issue with Access and wireless is with an Access front
>end connected across a wireless connection to a Jet back end. If the
>back end is SQL Server or some other server database, it's not an
>issue. And if you're not connecting across the wire (as you are not
>with a remote session running on Windows Terminal Server or Citrix),
>then it's also not an issue.
>
>> thanks for your imput, I love this web site!
>
>What website? You're using a website that republishes public Usenet
>groups that are available without using that website at all. I'm not
>pleased that sites like Access Monster are repackaging Usenet
>content as though it's their own -- it's misleading, in my opinion,
>and borderline copyright violation.
>

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Re: Wireless and Access
"David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet[ at ]dfenton.com.invalid> 6/5/2007 6:14:26 PM
"RobUCSD via AccessMonster.com" <u34500[ at ]uwe> wrote in
news:7333d401e4ab0[ at ]uwe:

[Quoted Text]
> I should have said website(s). I use both access monster and the
> microsoft access user formum. So I love them both because they've
> been extremely helpfull to me (primarily msa user forum.)

But I use the MS newsgroups and don't use a website to get them
(thank heavens!).

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Re: Wireless and Access
"Tony Toews [MVP]" <ttoews[ at ]telusplanet.net> 6/26/2007 6:22:08 PM
"Tom Wussernark [MSFT]" <tw[ at ]microsoft.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>you can't use Wireless with Access databases
>
>you'd be better off moving to Access Data Projects and SQL Server
>
>It just amazes me -- if your database is too much of a wimp to support
>wireless then you need a skills upgrade

Note that this person is really A a r o n K e m p f and that he is not an employee
of Microsoft.

Tony
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