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vista 64bit with 32bit key
disorder <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 12/25/2008 7:13:51 PM
I am trying to use a 64bit vista install disc, with a 32bit key, it installs but wont activate.

Is it because I have activated this copy of windows on my home PC? (with my own 64bit key)

I thought the copy of windows was independent of the key being used to activate?

The only option I have is to install from a 32bit 'branded' OEM copy of vista, with associated logo's but I would rather not.

So is there anything I can do to activate the 64bit copy of windows, with the 32bit key that came with the laptop I am installing it on.


Any advice would be appreciated thanks. -- disorder
Re: vista 64bit with 32bit key
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 12/25/2008 7:47:41 PM
Since the OEM vendors do not purchase licenses that are good for both 32 bit
and 64 bit versions of Vista the odds are that you can not upgrade your
64bit capabable computer to 64 bit Vista using the product key that came on
the sticker on the computer.
"disorder" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:e8130a1700747e4aa32c002bbda3d87b[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> I am trying to use a 64bit vista install disc, with a 32bit key, it
> installs but wont activate.
>
> Is it because I have activated this copy of windows on my home PC?
> (with my own 64bit key)
>
> I thought the copy of windows was independent of the key being used to
> activate?
>
> The only option I have is to install from a 32bit 'branded' OEM copy of
> vista, with associated logo's but I would rather not.
>
> So is there anything I can do to activate the 64bit copy of windows,
> with the 32bit key that came with the laptop I am installing it on.
>
>
> Any advice would be appreciated thanks.
>
>
> --
> disorder

Re: vista 64bit with 32bit key
SIW2 <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 12/25/2008 7:48:54 PM
disorder;919986 Wrote: > I am trying to use a 64bit vista install disc, with a 32bit key, it > installs but wont activate. > > Is it because I have activated this copy of windows on my home PC? > (with my own 64bit key) > > I thought the copy of windows was independent of the key being used to > activate? > > The only option I have is to install from a 32bit 'branded' OEM copy of > vista, with associated logo's but I would rather not. > > So is there anything I can do to activate the 64bit copy of windows, > with the 32bit key that came with the laptop I am installing it on. > > > Any advice would be appreciated thanks. Hi Disorder, The factory installed version of the operating system was most likely an image, i.e. the same as on a great number of machines from that manufacturer. This would contain a product key and activation code from the manufacturer - they will also be on the "recovery" partition or discs that came with the laptop. If you wish to use a proper MS install dvd and the product key stickered on the outside of the machine, this is normally a different key and you need to ring the manufacturer to get it activated.You would need to ensure you have the drivers for the exact model of laptop - normally available from the manufacturers website. You may prefer to install from the "recovery" dvd and use this handy free tool to help remove the stuff you don't want: 'Download | The PC Decrapifier' (http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/download). When it is setup the way you like, you can make your own image for future restoration. You can use any number of commercial tools for this - many have free versions will do the basic job. This free version of Macrium Reflect works on 32 or 64 bit systems and is excellent. The paid version has even more functions, of course. 'Macrium Reflect Free Edition 4.2 build 2033 - Downloads - ZDNet Australia' (http://www.zdnet.com.au/downloads/0,139024478,10675060s,00.htm) Hope it helps SIW2 -- SIW2
Re: vista 64bit with 32bit key
disorder <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 12/25/2008 8:03:50 PM
> Since the OEM vendors do not purchase licenses that are good for both 32 > bit > and 64 bit versions of Vista the odds are that you can not upgrade your > 64bit capabable computer to 64 bit Vista using the product key that > came on > the sticker on the computer. Please see my reply to SIW2, thanks > The factory installed version of the operating system was most likely an > image, i.e. the same as on a great number of machines from that > manufacturer. > > This would contain a product key and activation code from the > manufacturer - they will also be on the "recovery" partition or discs > that came with the laptop. > > If you wish to use a proper MS install dvd and the product key > stickered on the outside of the machine, this is normally a different > key and you need to ring the manufacturer to get it activated.You would > need to ensure you have the drivers for the exact model of laptop - > normally available from the manufacturers website. > > You may prefer to install from the "recovery" dvd and use this handy > free tool to help remove the stuff you don't want: > > Download | The PC Decrapifier. > > When it is setup the way you like, you can make your own image for > future restoration. You can use any number of commercial tools for this > - many have free versions will do the basic job. > > This free version of Macrium Reflect works on 32 or 64 bit systems and > is excellent. The paid version has even more functions, of course. > > Macrium Reflect Free Edition 4.2 build 2033 - Downloads - ZDNet > Australia > > Hope it helps > > SIW2 I think you misread me slightly; 1. the 64bit copy of vista i have is a standard install cd that came with my quadcore, not a oem or branded copy, im installing it because of this reason. Note I am not install the 64bit vista on any of my own machines, I chose to use xp64 instead of the vista64 that came with it. 2. the oem/branded copies of 32bit i have. have a cd-key embedded in them and self activate, both copies are from my laptops, they also have a lot of extra crap+oob extras that I dont want, i wanted a plain install. 3. the person who I'm trying to help can't find their copy/dvd. they have a 32bit key on the bottom of their laptop which i am trying to install my un-branded copy of 64bit with 4. there is no recovery partition on their computer, its just a 70gb hdd with 1 partition which is the installed drive (i made it that way*) *Im computer literate and I know what I'm doing :) basically all im trying to do is activate a 64bit copy of windows with a 32bit key, if 32bit keys dont work on 64bit versions (even though they install ok) then that is all I need to know. if its some other reason it wont activate then I am trying to find that out. thanks for replies -- disorder
RE: vista 64bit with 32bit key
Mick Murphy 12/25/2008 8:08:01 PM
If you had a Retail version of Vista, you could do what you are trying to do.

"Braned" OEM versions are cheaper than Retail versions of Vista, so it does
not work that way(getting freee 64bit version as well).

Contact your computer manufacturer re obtaining a 64bit version of your
"branded" OEM.
--
Mad Mike


"disorder" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> I am trying to use a 64bit vista install disc, with a 32bit key, it
> installs but wont activate.
>
> Is it because I have activated this copy of windows on my home PC?
> (with my own 64bit key)
>
> I thought the copy of windows was independent of the key being used to
> activate?
>
> The only option I have is to install from a 32bit 'branded' OEM copy of
> vista, with associated logo's but I would rather not.
>
> So is there anything I can do to activate the 64bit copy of windows,
> with the 32bit key that came with the laptop I am installing it on.
>
>
> Any advice would be appreciated thanks.
>
>
> --
> disorder
>
Re: vista 64bit with 32bit key
SIW2 <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 12/25/2008 8:28:35 PM
disorder;920036 Wrote: > > > > Since the OEM vendors do not purchase licenses that are good for both 32 > > bit > > and 64 bit versions of Vista the odds are that you can not upgrade your > > 64bit capabable computer to 64 bit Vista using the product key that > > came on > > the sticker on the computer.> > Please see my reply to SIW2, thanks > > > > > The factory installed version of the operating system was most likely an > > image, i.e. the same as on a great number of machines from that > > manufacturer. > > > > This would contain a product key and activation code from the > > manufacturer - they will also be on the "recovery" partition or discs > > that came with the laptop. > > > > If you wish to use a proper MS install dvd and the product key > > stickered on the outside of the machine, this is normally a different > > key and you need to ring the manufacturer to get it activated.You would > > need to ensure you have the drivers for the exact model of laptop - > > normally available from the manufacturers website. > > > > You may prefer to install from the "recovery" dvd and use this handy > > free tool to help remove the stuff you don't want: > > > > Download | The PC Decrapifier. > > > > When it is setup the way you like, you can make your own image for > > future restoration. You can use any number of commercial tools for this > > - many have free versions will do the basic job. > > > > This free version of Macrium Reflect works on 32 or 64 bit systems and > > is excellent. The paid version has even more functions, of course. > > > > Macrium Reflect Free Edition 4.2 build 2033 - Downloads - ZDNet > > Australia > > > > Hope it helps > > > > SIW2> > I think you misread me slightly; > > 1. the 64bit copy of vista i have is a standard install cd that came > with my quadcore, not a oem or branded copy, im installing it because > of this reason. Note I am not install the 64bit vista on any of my own > machines, I chose to use xp64 instead of the vista64 that came with > it. > > 2. the oem/branded copies of 32bit i have. have a cd-key embedded in > them and self activate, both copies are from my laptops, they also > have a lot of extra crap+oob extras that I dont want, i wanted a plain > install. > > 3. the person who I'm trying to help can't find their copy/dvd. they > have a 32bit key on the bottom of their laptop which i am trying to > install my un-branded copy of 64bit with > > 4. there is no recovery partition on their computer, its just a 70gb > hdd with 1 partition which is the installed drive (i made it that > way*) > > *Im computer literate and I know what I'm doing :) > > > basically all im trying to do is activate a 64bit copy of windows > with a 32bit key, if 32bit keys dont work on 64bit versions (even > though they install ok) then that is all I need to know. > if its some other reason it wont activate then I am trying to find > that out. > > thanks for replies Hi, As far as I know, 32 bit keys work with 64 bit dvd's and vice versa. Curious may be right in that it varies according to manufacturer. However, I think the problem you are having is because the key stickered on the bottom / side of an oem machine can usually only be activated by ringing the manufacturer. Hope this helps SIW2 -- SIW2
Re: vista 64bit with 32bit key
disorder <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 12/25/2008 8:59:52 PM
oh hi thanks for your responses it must have been a mis-typed key when i installed it, i retyped the one on the sticker into the 'activate now' area and its activated ok :) ty all peas -- disorder

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